Hi, I'm currently remodeling our new home built in the 70's. In short time! Has anyone successfully sprayed Zinsser 1-2-3 primer through a HVLP? } else { The Corona brushes hold a lot of finish so you don't have to spend a lot of time going back to the can which ultimately adds brushmarks when doing large areas. Discussion in 'Decorating and Painting' started by DIYNotIan, 17 Sep 2016. PRIMER TECHNICAL DATA ZBE-01 BULLS-EYE 1-2-3 WATER-BASED PRIMER Form: CS1245 Rev. Hereof, can you thin Zinsser Cover Stain primer? If you’ve ever looked through the Zinsser range you’ll see that they have a lot of different Zinssser primers to choose from. Zinsser Bullseye 123 vs Coverstain. - according to the tech. A Quick Guide to Zinsser Primers. In this example Zinsser Cover Stain was thinned down to spray bare poplar then 2 coats of acrylic paint applied over the primer. For airless spraying use a 0.017" tip at 2000 to 2500 psi. I saw your question and used the answers below and the results were fabulous! Use 0.015-0.017 tip. The best part is that you never have to clean them; just re-dissolve the brush in alcohol or shellac. Thinning– If thinning is necessary add no more than 10 % clean water and stir thoroughly. instructions when using spray equipment. Bulls-Eye 1-2 … Wear NIOSH approved respirator and provide 50/50  it went on areally easy dries very fast and allowed me to put on several thin coats. Good brushes help. Note that thinning the primer may affect its stain blocking properties. $( "#local-search-error" ).show(); Zinsser ® Bulls-Eye 1-2-3® is a high hide water-based styrenated acrylic water-based primer-sealer stain blocker and bond coat designed for priming all surfaces. If using airless sprayer, do not thin. If you’ve ever looked through the Zinsser range you’ll see that they have a lot of different Zinssser primers to choose from. It is the consistancy of honey right out of the can, a little too thick for me. When thinning water-based primers, KILZ recommends using no more than one-half pint of water per gallon of primer. Our biweekly podcast allows editors, authors, and special guests to answer your woodworking questions and connect with the online woodworking community. 0000050785 00000 n $( "#local-search-error" ).show(); Note that thinning the primer may affect its stain-blocking properties. Thinned primer is helpful when using a spray-application method, since thick primers may clog the spray nozzle. Since then, I just thin until it "feels" right. When thinning water-based primers, KILZ recommends using no more than one-half pint of water per gallon of primer. simply add as many coats as you want. ("What's that smell?" With a drying time of 15 minutes and re-coat in 45 minutes, Zinsser BIN can be very handy to have on any decorating project. or if you are doing it yourself you can find suppliers local to you. sheet I googled. If the shellac separates (this is normal) just stir it real good and strain before spraying. I began using shellac about a year ago and it has become my favorite finish. Bulls Eye® 1-2-3 effectively primes and seals a wide variety of interior and exterior surfaces. When thinning water-based primers, KILZ recommends using no more than one-half pint of water per gallon of primer. @nailbanger2; according to zinsser, the BIN has a shelf life of 3 years. THINNING If thinning is necessary, add no more than 10 fluid ounces of clean water per gallon and mix thoroughly. It is important to note that thinned primer is less effective at blocking stains. Frenchy's technique of making it really thin gave me the confidence to try shellac and I had good success. Shall I go to DefCon III? I think I detect shellac missiles in the air! Apply to "It's pure alcohol, mate. Don't look at the MANY threads here on Knots re the proper application of shellac - it'll likely confuse you - I like to call it "The Shellac Wars" - lots of fun, but some very different ideas on what works. © 2020 The Taunton Press, Inc. All rights reserved. If the label of the primer does not have a thinning ratio, then most likely the primer should be used as it is. I'm pretty sure it is but don't want to mess it up. Can you paint Zinsser Bullseye 123 on top of Vynil Matt? : 080112 1.DESCRIPTION AND USES . Surface preparation Surfaces must be clean, dry and free of scaling paint, loose wallpaper and wallpaper paste. Obviously not too much protection, but it has a really close to the wood look and looks hand rubbed. Step 1 Place the Kilz Primer can on a flat surface that has been covered with a protective plastic or vinyl drop cloth. All of them have their own uses, and knowing the best one to use in your situation will mean that you not only get the best results, but you also get results that will last longer. I recommend cutting it by AT LEAST a third, and maybe more, depending. Thinned primer also covers more surface area, reducing the cost of materials for large projects. Always refer to the instructions on the can first and, if the paint label does not explicitly state that it can be thinned, then it is best not to do so. $("#local-search-location").val($("#local-search-location-req").val()); For those who use Zinsser 123, is this thicker that it should be? For primer, is Zinsser 1-2-3 a decent choice to spray with a HVLP system? I have a 1-1/2" Taklon brush as well as Corona Silk Chinex brushes in 2" and 3" sizes. Apply between 35°F and 90°F (2°C and 32°C), RH < 85%. Main differences? I really like that you don’t even need to sand after using unless you want to, which makes all projects go just a bit quicker. Out of the can it is quite thick, and from what I have been able to find, it can be thinned up to ~7-10% with water. If Bulls Eye® 1-2-3 dries, use Zinsser BIN Brush Cleaner to remove dried paint on brushes. Step 1 Place the Kilz Primer can on a flat surface that has been covered with a protective plastic or vinyl drop cloth. Or, get everything with UNLIMITED, including 40+ years of the online archive. ZINSSER® CEILING PAINT PAINT & PRIMER IN ONE ... be primed and sealed with Bulls-Eye 1-2-3 Primer. TINTING To improve the hiding power of the topcoat, tint Bulls Eye 1-2-3 toward the topcoat color with up to 2 oz. Bulls Eye® 1-2-3 is our classic universal interior and exterior, water-based, primer-sealer. when using spray equipment. SEALING B-I-N Advanced penetrates and seals porous surfaces and dries to a smooth finish with excellent enamel holdout. I wanted to rip it all out and put new primed trim and doors and paint everything white. A Quick Guide to Zinsser Primers. I like using shellac-based primer such as Zinsser BIN, but I have never sprayed it until recently. I use 2 gallons of denatured alcohol to one gallon of bullseye.. That makes a quick drying 15 minutes first coat)  and thin coating.. extremely difficult to screw up. Rust-Oleum 272479 Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 Plus Spray Primer, White 4.6 out of 5 stars 907. Shop zinsser bulls eye 1-2-3 interior or exterior multi-purpose oil-based wall and ceiling primer (aerosol spray) in the primer section of Lowes.com sheet I googled. Subscribe today, now up to 64% off newsstand. Apparently too thin reduces it's stain blocking properties. Does it sand decently? TINTING Bulls-Eye Multi-Purpose Primer & Sealer may be tinted }); https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5TOZ--hamf8LU9OXzFBbFVqMlU, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. It can be used as an effective primer to improve coverage and sheen consistency of … The Zinsser Bulls Eye 1-2-3 is a Rust-Oleum product and I’m certain you’ve probably used one or two of their products with success. I'm pretty sure it is but don't want to mess it up. If you need to find a tradesperson to get your job done, please try our local search below, Complete Illustrated Guide to Woodworking USB, Editor's letter: Finding sanctuary in the shop, From the Editor: Publishing during a pandemic, Save 56% off the magazine newsstand price. This primer will be no different. $("#local-search-form").submit(); Plus tips, advice, and special offers from Fine Woodworking. - according to the tech. I've sprayed 123+ which is the same as smart prime. $('#local-search-submit').click(function() { The steps for thinning primers are very similar to the steps for thinning the paint itself. 0000020848 00000 n } else { 0000000016 00000 n $("#local-search-services").val($("#local-search-services-req").val()); 0000001872 00000 n 0000008637 00000 n Question For those who use Zinsser 123, is this thicker that it should be? If thinning is necessary, use only water and no more than 10% by volume. $("#local-search-services").val($("#local-search-services-req").val()); Good luck, shellac is wonderful stuff once you've got it mastered. When spraying oil paint, the mixture you use in spray gun needs to be very thin … ... No more than 10 fluid ounces per gallon for the Zin. Thinned primer is helpful when using a spray-application method, since thick primers may clog the spray nozzle. Hand-sanding, planing, and scraping can be better than power sanding for certain applications. Thinning BullsEye 123 is designed to be used as is. Kilz Primer is a heavy-duty primer that can be brushed, rolled or sprayed on a surface, however, due to its viscosity the product must be thinned down for use in a paint sprayer. Click for full details. To thin, pour the needed amount of primer into a container, then add water and stir until completely mixed. If using conventional air sprayer, thin with about 10% tap water, spray at 50-60 psi. Most finishing materials contain hazardous chemicals, so it’s important to protect your skin, eyes, and lungs. Remove any wax with mineral spirits. White Oil-Based Interior/Exterior Primer and Sealer Spray (6-Pack) Again, you get a feel for it. I thin about 10% with water. return; It has stained wood trim and stained solid wood doors throughout the house. Does it sand decently? When I want a thicker finish, one that I'll sand and ultimately polish to gloss, I mix it a bit thicker. Again thin about 10% with water. airless spraying use .017 tip at 2000 - 2500 P.S.I.). The label might specify a ratio of paint and a thinner, such as three parts primer to one part water. UNLIMITED membership - Get access to it all. Basically thin it and see. It's good for you."). $(function(){ It has stained wood trim and stained solid wood doors throughout the house. For the first 15 minutes it worked great, but then the performance went downhill fast. Hi, I'm currently remodeling our new home built in the 70's. I don’t mind having to thin and spray multiple coats to get the coverage needed. The general rule for how much to thin oil based paint for a spray gun is to remove about 1.5 cups of primer from a 1-gallon can and then add 1.5 cups of thinning agent to the product. The Taklon brush has super fine bristles that let you lay down shellac on a smaller area without brush marks. To do this mix the shellac 50/50 with denatured alcohol. Always refer to the instructions on the can first and, if the paint label does not explicitly state that it can be thinned, then it is best not to do so. If it thickens, just add a bit of dna. event.preventDefault(); Note that thinning the primer may affect its stain-blocking properties. THINNING If thinning is necessary, add no more than 10 fluid ounces of clean water per gallon, mix thoroughly and apply a second coat. $( "#local-search-error" ).hide(); Kilz Primer is a heavy-duty primer that can be brushed, rolled or sprayed on a surface, however, due to its viscosity the product must be thinned down for use in a paint sprayer. It off..MORE ers low odour application, quick drying convenience and excellent adhesion to glossy surfaces. Wear NIOSH approved respirator and provide adequate ventilation. 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